succumbing to peer pressure

Monday, March 06, 2006

Two excellent responses to SD's abortion ban (Amelia even read the full text of the thing, proving that she clearly has a stronger stomach than I):

whether or not any of those women think that they would choose abortion (most of them would probably say no, i'd venture), i'd like us all to live in states where wacky pseudo-christian misogynists didn't get to institutionalize their sense that females have no capacity for moral reasoning.

Amen sister. Because really, that's what this debate comes down to. Couch it any way you like - the vast majority (and yes, I'm generalizing here) of the most vocal and rabid individuals in the anti-choice movement are actually anti-woman. They hate to acknowledge the possibility that we might be people, with a full set of rights, and the ability to think and make decisions. Even incredibly painful, complex, moral decisions.

And Pandagon (in response to a whole slew of other blogger posts and comments):

Whether Digby is or isn’t doesn’t matter, though, because if Digby is male then he clearly understands why those who can’t get pregnant aren’t in the position to tell people that can that pregnancy is a perfectly acceptable “consequence” of sex. I’m not one to say that men shouldn’t be part of the abortion debate, but I’m inclined to think that if more men showed some decent humility in the face of the fact that they’re debating whether someone has a right to get out of a situation they could never actually be in, there wouldn’t be an abortion debate at all.

I'll reiterate - yes, of course, it takes two to tango. Yes, of course, when a woman gets pregnant that child belongs to both the man and woman who created it, and yes, of course, he should have a say in the matter. But please, I beg of the kind, generous men I have the pleasure of knowing - before you open your mouth, take a moment to stop and think about how offensive it can sound if you speak in absolute terms and with absolute knowledge about a physical state in which you will never, ever be. That isn't your fault, and you shouldn't suffer for that, but it is a fact. Like Pandagon, I'm just asking for some decent humility.


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